Comments on: The Google controversy http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/ Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:54:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kev.in » One of these days http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-21497 kev.in » One of these days Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:30:05 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-21497 [...] It’ll be informative, thoughtful, witty, current; maybe a little snarky. It will have a hipster name and I’ll post fun and artsy pictures to it. I’ll contribute my own carefully considered commentary to the heated discussion du jour. It will be a place for me to wax philosophic about intellectual, political and technical matters that affect us all. It will be entertaining but also deep. I will have a hundred thousand readers. [...] [...] It’ll be informative, thoughtful, witty, current; maybe a little snarky. It will have a hipster name and I’ll post fun and artsy pictures to it. I’ll contribute my own carefully considered commentary to the heated discussion du jour. It will be a place for me to wax philosophic about intellectual, political and technical matters that affect us all. It will be entertaining but also deep. I will have a hundred thousand readers. [...]

]]> By: André Nogueira http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-20589 André Nogueira Sat, 06 Jan 2007 21:39:38 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-20589 Hi Steven, Yes, I have pretty much the same opinion as you... I don't think it's surprising they do it, what I do think is surprising (or perhaps it isn't, and it's just PR) is that they're doing it while they say they "do no evil". Hi Steven,

Yes, I have pretty much the same opinion as you… I don’t think it’s surprising they do it, what I do think is surprising (or perhaps it isn’t, and it’s just PR) is that they’re doing it while they say they “do no evil”.

]]> By: Steven http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-19663 Steven Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:03:33 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-19663 If your are interested this is what I had to say on the matter :) http://www.winextra.com/?p=199 If your are interested this is what I had to say on the matter :)

http://www.winextra.com/?p=199

]]> By: Andre Nogueira http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-19421 Andre Nogueira Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:06:37 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-19421 Hi Cloud02, Thank you for the link to our blog! However, I'd like to point out that I'm not a Microsoft employee, just a beta tester. I do hope to work for them someday, though :-) Thanks! Hi Cloud02,
Thank you for the link to our blog! However, I’d like to point out that I’m not a Microsoft employee, just a beta tester. I do hope to work for them someday, though :-)

Thanks!

]]> By: Cloud’s Corner » Blog Archive » Misbruger Google sin troværdighed? http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-19411 Cloud’s Corner » Blog Archive » Misbruger Google sin troværdighed? Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:44:05 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-19411 [...] Furthermore a Microsoft employee pointed out the hypocricy in Google’s actions since they issued a lawsuit against Microsoft, because Microsoft used MSN search as the default search provider and Google feels that people should have the right to choose for themselves and they should should compete for users based on the quality of their search services instead of just bundling a software, in that case IE7, with a default search provider. One could ask how good Google’s own products are since they have to promote them using these “tips”, like how Blake Ross conveniently puts it: “either the company does not believe in its own search technology, or it does not believe its products are good enough to rise to the top organically” [...] [...] Furthermore a Microsoft employee pointed out the hypocricy in Google’s actions since they issued a lawsuit against Microsoft, because Microsoft used MSN search as the default search provider and Google feels that people should have the right to choose for themselves and they should should compete for users based on the quality of their search services instead of just bundling a software, in that case IE7, with a default search provider. One could ask how good Google’s own products are since they have to promote them using these “tips”, like how Blake Ross conveniently puts it: “either the company does not believe in its own search technology, or it does not believe its products are good enough to rise to the top organically” [...]

]]> By: Cloud02 : Misbruger Google sin troværdighed? http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-19407 Cloud02 : Misbruger Google sin troværdighed? Sat, 30 Dec 2006 11:42:44 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-19407 [...] Indlægger har jeg oprindeligt skrevet til en anden side og er på engelsk, men jeg synes at det er tankevækkende, så jeg bringer det somen copy/paste her også: Is Google really misusing their trust? This is the question many tech savvy people has been asking themselves after Blake Ross, co-founder og FireFox, pointed out how Google is promoting their own products through a small "tip" bar that appears on certain keyword searches. Blake Ross points out that Google promises to be "unconventionally trustworthy" and linking to their Code of Conduct and a letter to the shareholders. Just three weeks ago people questioned the Google products that appeared on the adwords section in the right hand side of the search results. A Google employee in the marketing dívision quickly stepped in and said that Google follows the same the guidelines just like everyone else and there are no algorithms that ’smooth the way’ for Google’s ads. But it is kind of thought provoking that the adwords are like an auction, he who pays most per click, is at the top of the list - And Google is buying the auctionized adspace from ... Google. Furthermore a Microsoft employee pointed out the hypocricy in Google's actions since they issued a lawsuit against Microsoft, because Microsoft used MSN search as the default search provider and Google feels that people should have the right to choose for themselves and they should should compete for users based on the quality of their search services instead of just bundling a software, in that case IE7, with a default search provider. One could ask how good Google's own products are since they have to promote them using these "tips", like how Blake Ross conveniently puts it: "either the company does not believe in its own search technology, or it does not believe its products are good enough to rise to the top organically" Just my thoughts on the whole subject. -Cloud02 [...] [...] Indlægger har jeg oprindeligt skrevet til en anden side og er på engelsk, men jeg synes at det er tankevækkende, så jeg bringer det somen copy/paste her også: Is Google really misusing their trust? This is the question many tech savvy people has been asking themselves after Blake Ross, co-founder og FireFox, pointed out how Google is promoting their own products through a small "tip" bar that appears on certain keyword searches. Blake Ross points out that Google promises to be "unconventionally trustworthy" and linking to their Code of Conduct and a letter to the shareholders. Just three weeks ago people questioned the Google products that appeared on the adwords section in the right hand side of the search results. A Google employee in the marketing dívision quickly stepped in and said that Google follows the same the guidelines just like everyone else and there are no algorithms that ’smooth the way’ for Google’s ads. But it is kind of thought provoking that the adwords are like an auction, he who pays most per click, is at the top of the list – And Google is buying the auctionized adspace from … Google. Furthermore a Microsoft employee pointed out the hypocricy in Google's actions since they issued a lawsuit against Microsoft, because Microsoft used MSN search as the default search provider and Google feels that people should have the right to choose for themselves and they should should compete for users based on the quality of their search services instead of just bundling a software, in that case IE7, with a default search provider. One could ask how good Google's own products are since they have to promote them using these "tips", like how Blake Ross conveniently puts it: "either the company does not believe in its own search technology, or it does not believe its products are good enough to rise to the top organically" Just my thoughts on the whole subject. -Cloud02 [...]

]]> By: Cloud02 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-19395 Cloud02 Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:37:52 +0000 http://www.msblog.org/2006/12/29/the-google-controversy/#comment-19395 Yes Google is being a hypocrit when it comes to advertising of products, since they're using their dominant position on web searches to get users to download, possibly buy, other of their products. But there isn't much that can be done about it I believe. I highly doubt an anti-trust ruling can be put on Google since: a) It's hard to measure completely how big their market share is. b) Very easy for users to use another search engine. Yes Google is being a hypocrit when it comes to advertising of products, since they’re using their dominant position on web searches to get users to download, possibly buy, other of their products.
But there isn’t much that can be done about it I believe. I highly doubt an anti-trust ruling can be put on Google since:
a) It’s hard to measure completely how big their market share is.
b) Very easy for users to use another search engine.

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